RHR: Managing Display Time for Youngsters

Expertise has grown to play an more and more essential function in our day by day lives, so it’s completely important that we think about the attainable dangerous results of display time on each adults and youngsters. There’s a rising concern for youngsters whose growing brains and social abilities will be affected by [the] overuse of know-how, and but it’s turn into obvious that tech will stay ingrained in our lives for the foreseeable future. On this podcast, I cowl a few of the ways in which my household makes use of and restricts know-how in our day by day lives, some examples of how it may be dangerous and what we are able to do about it, in addition to some ideas for every household to undertake a plan for managing their display time in [a] means that works finest for them. 

On this episode, we focus on:

  • Why we’re speaking about this subject
  • Hanging a stability between placing too many restrictions on our children’ display time and never giving them sufficient restrictions 
  • Selecting the perfect software program for your loved ones to handle your youngsters’s know-how use
  • The significance of being conscious of the potential destructive impacts of know-how use
  • Various know-how to provide your youngsters apart from the favored smartphone or pill
  • Determining how a lot display time is the correct quantity in your little one
  • When to have a sit-down dialogue along with your little one to speak about accountable know-how use and display time stability

Present notes:

  • OurPact app for managing tech time
  • Display Time app for managing display time
  • The Social Dilemma documentary 
  • RHR: Reclaiming Your Self within the Trendy World with Cal Newport
  • Gabb Wi-fi telephones and watches 

RHR: Managing Display Time for Youngsters

Intro

Chris Kresser: Hey, everyone, Chris Kresser right here. Welcome to a different episode of Revolution Well being Radio. This week, I’m going to do a solo present on a subject that we’ve acquired fairly a couple of questions on over the previous six or seven months. I’ve spoken over time and extra lately in regards to the dangerous impacts of extra display time for each youngsters and adults. And I’ve talked a good quantity in regards to the steps that we as adults can take to scale back display time. However a couple of listeners have written in to ask for concepts on restrict display use in youngsters, given how ubiquitous these applied sciences have turn into of their lives. And this has been much more true throughout the pandemic when many youngsters have been remoted and stored at dwelling and screens have been their major interfaces with their lecturers, associates, and lives usually.

I’m going to share some concepts and instruments that we’ve discovered to be useful in our household. And there are a few caveats right here. The primary is that that is positively a piece in progress. It’s been a wrestle for us. We discovered some issues which were efficient [and] some issues that haven’t been efficient. And I feel it’s value stating that we’re merchandise of the environment, and we’re formed by the environment, and we’re influenced and affected by the environment. And we are able to’t make remoted modifications in that setting and anticipate these modifications to not be impacted by the circumstances or situations of that setting. That’s a somewhat long-winded means of claiming that if we discover ourselves in a tradition the place these applied sciences are dominant and play an more and more important function in social interactions between youngsters and leisure actions and the way in which that children study, and nearly every little thing else, it’s going to be troublesome for us to handle that on a person stage. These are systemic issues, and, actually, there are steps that we are able to take individually and as households to mitigate the affect of these applied sciences. However on the finish of the day, we’re nonetheless topic to the affect of the setting that we dwell in. And I feel that’s one of the crucial troublesome features of this for fogeys.

It’s one thing I talked with Cal Newport somewhat bit on the present that I did with him on this broader subject of know-how in our lives. He additionally makes [the] level that, in his expertise, purely particular person steps which can be taken to scale back display time for adults, which is what he largely talks about, are sometimes not that efficient as a result of they ignore the significance of this context that we’re discussing right here. In order that’s the primary caveat. The second caveat in what I’m going to share with you is that we as a household are fairly restrictive in terms of these items. Loads of what we do might sound draconian or unrealistic to you, relying in your specific scenario. If there’s a spectrum the place on one finish isn’t any boundaries in any respect, and simply giving youngsters 100% management over their very own use of know-how, after which on the opposite finish of the spectrum resides in a cave, in a distant space the place there’s completely no publicity to applied sciences for teenagers, I’d say we’re actually not within the cave. However we’re most likely nearer to that finish of the spectrum than we’re to the opposite finish of the spectrum the place there’s no limitation or boundaries in any respect.

And I’m not saying that our means is the one means, in fact, and even the correct means. Each household has to seek out what works for them, given their particular circumstances, and there will likely be numerous variables that decide that. One is perhaps simply every specific little one’s relationship with know-how and the way inclined they’re to display dependancy or extra display use interfering with different actions. The reality is that’s not the identical for each child. I feel all youngsters are inclined to some extent, similar to all adults are inclined, due to our primary hardwired organic human programming. However inside that susceptibility, there may be positively a spread. There are children who’re very inclined to this and, sadly, these youngsters can turn into those [who] take care of precise dependancy and will find yourself in rehab for online game dependancy or display dependancy of some type. And it could actually destroy their lives and their household’s lives.

Hanging a Steadiness Between Too Many Restrictions and Not Sufficient

On the opposite finish of the spectrum, you might have youngsters [who] are mildly inclined in the way in which that each one human beings are inclined, nevertheless it doesn’t actually intervene with their lives. It doesn’t get in the way in which of their regular human relationships; it doesn’t get in the way in which of their bodily exercise, spending time outdoor, and all the opposite stuff that’s essential for teenagers to be doing. In order that’s one variable. One other variable will likely be their social contacts and associates. One of many issues that’s hardest for us, and that I hear from so many alternative households, is limiting entry to those applied sciences, in lots of circumstances, limits their participation within the social actions that their associates are engaged in. For instance, I had a dialogue a number of months again with a mother or father of a 16-year-old lady, and her 16-year-old lady was devastated as a result of she felt like she had misplaced her finest pal as a result of her finest pal had joined Instagram and was interacting lots with different associates on Instagram. And this specific mother or father of this 16-year-old didn’t need her daughter to be on Instagram and didn’t enable it. So she didn’t have a telephone that had Instagram on it. And, over a comparatively brief interval of just some weeks, this mother or father felt, or the daughter mainly felt like she was shut out from her relationship together with her finest pal as a result of her pal wished her to be on Instagram, liking her posts, and interacting together with her like different associates had been.

So it is a actual concern and [has] an actual affect on youngsters’ lives. And I feel we have to have numerous compassion and understanding for the place that they’re in. As a result of that’s a very troublesome circumstance to be in in case you really feel like your finest pal is utilizing these applied sciences and desirous to work together with them, and also you’re not capable of as a 16-year-old, that’s actually troublesome. All human beings wish to be included. That’s one other primary human trait. And as everyone knows, since we’ve all been youngsters ourselves, that impulse is very robust and essential throughout the teenage years. And I’d say much less in even tween years, as effectively. So, being excluded from a context the place most of your pals are taking part and interacting isn’t any small factor. And it’s positively one thing that we have to think about as we take into consideration what the perfect response is as mother and father.

That’s a framework for the way I give it some thought. And once more, that is for me, for us, for a lot of of our associates, and my sufferers and other people [who] I talked to about this; it’s a shifting goal. It’s one thing that must be reevaluated nearly consistently. I [don’t] assume it must be the sort of factor the place you provide you with a coverage and simply implement it and overlook about it. It’s far more dynamic than that, and the situations are sometimes altering. So I’m going to provide you some concepts and suggestions and share a few of the applied sciences, mockingly, that we use to restrict know-how entry. And the ultimate caveat will likely be it is a dwelling, respiratory set of ideas and pointers, and I’ll positively revisit it sooner or later as issues proceed to evolve for us.

The primary precept is pretty easy, however I’m shocked by how typically it appears to be ignored, which is for fogeys to be accountable for your youngsters’ entry to screens and know-how. I consider that unrestricted, limitless display entry, particularly when that display is related to the web, and there are not any boundaries on what apps will be put in, is a recipe for catastrophe. I feel we’ve got loads of analysis to help this. We all know that that’s even true for adults. Many people wrestle to restrict our personal use of those applied sciences, and even these of us who perceive what the downsides are nonetheless wrestle. After which once you give youngsters and youngsters that sort of unrestricted entry, primary, they might first not have the identical concepts in regards to the harms that may come from these applied sciences. So they aren’t essentially even beginning with the belief that they need to restrict them. And quantity two, they’ve the unimaginable social pull that I simply talked about to be utilizing them. And quantity three, their willpower and different useful resource[s], inner sources for limiting their entry, controlling their very own habits are sometimes far much less developed than these sorts of sources will be in adults.

For all these causes, I feel that giving youngsters unrestricted entry is a big mistake, and it’s actually setting them up and setting you up for failure and numerous issues down the road. So the primary precept is to be accountable for entry, and there are other ways to do that. One, in fact, is to not give your youngsters their very own gadgets within the first place, like telephones or tablets, and solely enable them to make use of yours at sure occasions and for sure intervals that you simply designate. Now, this has some downsides, in fact, particularly as youngsters become old. It’s a must to be very a lot concerned and in management, and there will be numerous energy struggles round that. You additionally might not need your youngsters [on] your gadgets and probably opening [and] studying your emails or textual content messages or issues like that. So I feel that this specific technique can work for very younger youngsters. [However], I’d additionally argue that very younger youngsters shouldn’t actually have a lot display entry in any respect, notably unsupervised display entry. However when youngsters become old, in lots of circumstances, it’s going to make extra sense for them to have their very own gadget, no matter that is perhaps. However to make use of, once more, right here’s the irony, know-how, notably software program, to manage and restrict their entry to these gadgets.

Software program to Management Machine Entry

Let me give a particular instance in our household. Our daughter is 10 [years old] on the time of this recording, 10 and a half; she doesn’t have her personal telephone but, though she would very very like to have one. And she or he doubtless received’t have her personal telephone till she’s 15 or 16. Once more, this places us within the absolute minority. Some would name us Neo-Luddites, nevertheless it’s a selection we’ve made based mostly on consideration of lots of the variables that I discussed earlier within the recording. She does have her personal iPad, and we use an app referred to as OurPact that permits us to set limits on the general period of time that she will spend on the gadget. And likewise what apps can be utilized, whether or not she will obtain new apps herself; she can not. Whether or not she will do in-app purchases, she can not. And several other different variables. So it’s a reasonably highly effective app. It’s not excellent; I’ve some quibbles with it. However I’ve checked out and used just about all the same apps, and I maintain coming again to utilizing OurPact for this goal. So you may set it up. For instance, let’s say you wish to give your youngsters a half-hour [or] an hour of display entry a day or two hours of display entry a day. You are able to do that. You possibly can even have totally different limits on the weekends versus throughout the week. You can even block out sure hours. So let’s say you don’t need them accessing the iPad within the morning once they’re preparing for college, and possibly you wish to set blackout hours at night time, so like after 8: 00 p.m., there’s no entry till the next day after faculty at 3: 00 p.m., or no matter you’re going to do.

It’s very simple to do this with OurPact. After which from there, you may configure what apps they’ve entry to. And that may even be executed for particular occasions a day. So you would resolve, for instance, to have solely sure apps obtainable within the morning, or on the weekend, or after faculty or what have you ever. So, [it’s a] fairly particular set of controls. There [are] additionally now built-in controls in iOS and possibly Android. I’m not an Android consumer, so I don’t know a lot about it. However I assume at this level that they’ve an analogous perform. In iOS, that is referred to as Display Time. And you should utilize this for your self to manage or restrict your personal display time; you may as well use it in your youngsters. And we use each. It’s somewhat sophisticated, [and] I’m not even positive I can clarify it right here. However there are options which can be obtainable in Display Time that aren’t obtainable in OurPact and vice versa. So we ended up cobbling collectively an answer the place we use each, and it really works fairly effectively. It was numerous trial and error for us, and there are tons and many variables, which is, once more, why I can’t actually clarify it intimately right here. However Display Time, for instance, permits us to restrict whole teams of apps. And I’ve discovered that in some circumstances, the time-limiting issue works somewhat bit higher than it does with OurPact.

One essential factor to notice is that for both of those apps to work effectively, the gadgets must be related to the web as a result of that’s the way it calls again to the mother or father gadget. So with OurPact, you’ll have it put in on the kid’s gadget, and you then’ll have an app in your gadget. And you may management all of the entry settings out of your gadget and from the kid’s gadget; that’s the way it calls again to the web, I feel, to implement the boundaries. And if it’s not related to the web, then there’s no restrict, and it is a draw back of the app, and I’ve written [to] them about it. Nevertheless it appears to be a limitation in the way it’s programmed. And this will come up, like let’s say you’re on an extended drive, and also you solely need your child to have the ability to watch a film for a pair [of] hours, and you then need them to do one thing else for the rest of the drive. Except that iPad has a mobile connection that permits it to be related whilst you’re driving, then that restrict won’t [be enforced], mainly. Your child will be capable of proceed utilizing the iPad till you get again to someplace the place there’s an web connection. In order that’s one thing to pay attention to. [A] workaround is getting a mobile connection for that gadget, and I feel Display Time does a greater job of that. It looks like typically the restrict will nonetheless be enforced, even when there’s not an web connection. However to be trustworthy, I haven’t been capable of absolutely determine that out but. It looks like typically it really works, and typically it doesn’t. However between each of those instruments, you may have numerous fine-grained management over what your youngsters are accessing and for the way lengthy.

Consciousness of Machine Actions with Potential Adverse Influence

The second precept is to manage your youngsters’ entry to the web and sure apps. Not all on-line actions are equal in terms of their potential destructive affect on youngsters. Streaming music, for instance, or taking images or organizing images are far totally different when it comes to how they have an effect on youngsters than utilizing Instagram or TikTok. Loads of the research we’ve seen and work from folks like Jonathan Haidt and even Fb’s personal analysis has proven that there are uniquely dangerous results of social media like Instagram and TikTok that notably affect tween and teenage women as a result of they plug into the robust want for belonging that I discussed earlier. And children can begin to arrange their lives round getting likes for what they put up, and in the event that they don’t get likes, it deeply impacts their shallowness. And that’s a lot worse and so totally different than taking photos, listening to music, and even texting. In order that’s the very first thing to pay attention to. We’re not speaking about common restriction to all applied sciences in the identical means. It is sensible to limit entry to these applied sciences, which current the best menace and may trigger the best hurt.

So once more, apps like OurPact that I simply talked about after which Display Time, which is constructed into iOS, can each present entry to and restrict entry to sure apps. And I feel it’s a very good thought to make use of these instruments for that reason. Alongside the identical strains, OurPact and Display Time also can block your little one from buying and downloading new apps from the App Retailer, which you positively wish to do. As a result of in any other case, your youngsters [are] simply going to work round this gorgeous rapidly. Most youngsters are savvy with know-how, and in the event that they’re capable of get on there and obtain no matter apps they need and use these apps or do in-app purchases, then no matter efforts you’ve [made] to forestall that from occurring will likely be moot.

Options to Common Smartphones

Another choice for controlling entry to the web and sure apps is to purchase one thing like a Gabb telephone or a Gabb watch. It is a firm that has created telephones and watches which can be particularly designed for teenagers. These gadgets restrict the variety of contacts {that a} child may have. So, for instance, with the Gabb watch, they’ll solely have 10 contacts; they’ll’t add new contacts. So that’s safer. It prevents numerous stuff from occurring that you simply may not wish to occur. There’s additionally a mode on the Gabb watch the place the one factor that the kid can do is to name an emergency quantity that you simply designate, which could possibly be your personal quantity [or] your associate’s quantity. And when it’s in that mode, it capabilities mainly as a watch and it’s an emergency gadget. And you may set hours for utilization. So let’s say you don’t need your child utilizing the watch throughout the day whereas they’re at college. You possibly can set it in order that they’ll solely have the total use of it from like 3: 00 p.m. to eight: 00 p.m. or one thing every single day. After which, the telephone has extra performance than the watch. It’s acquired music; it’s acquired extra contacts. They will ship textual content messages, [and] they’ll make calls. However they can not set up Instagram and different social media apps on the telephone. It’s simply not attainable to do this with the Gabb telephone. So this has turn into a reasonably fashionable choice for lots of fogeys.

And the watch can also be a well-liked choice for youthful youngsters. Whereas within the case the place you don’t essentially need your little one having full entry to a telephone but, however you do need them to have the ability to make calls, which you are able to do with the Gabb watch to the ten contacts which can be preloaded that the mother and father can load, and to have the ability to ship easy emoji-based textual content messages or pre-configured messages. So you might have a set of pre-configured messages you can decide and write and cargo into the watch. In order that they could possibly be like “I’m on my means dwelling” or “are you able to come decide me up” or one thing like that. After which the child can simply select from these pre-configured messages. After which the child also can file a voice memo or voice message that will likely be despatched to you as a textual content message, however it is going to present up as an audio recording. So I feel that’s a very nice starter choice.

We’re once more, on the time of this recording, contemplating that for our 10-year-old. We’re not prepared for a telephone, even a Gabb telephone for her. However we’re contemplating a watch, and there’s numerous controls and I feel [it] gives a few of the profit[s] of having the ability to take part in social interplay. A few of her associates have already got telephones. Definitely, numerous them have watches or issues like that, and she or he desires to have the ability to name them or talk with them. And after I assume again alone childhood and my spouse, we each discuss this. By the point we had been 10 or 11, we had been utilizing our landlines to name associates. And we had been capable of talk with them in that means. Most individuals now don’t have landlines, and that’s actually not an choice. So if we wish our children to have the ability to name their associates and talk with them in that means, then one thing like a Gabb watch, which allows that however doesn’t enable lots of the extra dangerous features of know-how for youthful youngsters, like entry to social media, which may be a very good compromise for lots of various mother and father and youngsters.

How A lot Time Ought to You Enable Your Child to Interact with the Display?

The final precept or query is simply merely how a lot time do you have to enable your child to be engaged with the display? It is a very private selection. And, in fact, it will depend on all of the variables that we talked about earlier than. And in case you ask 10 consultants, psychologists, and individuals who examine this and write about it and discuss it lots, you’re going to get 10 totally different solutions. So there’s nothing common right here. And once more, I feel it relies upon lots on the children’ temperament. The analysis is fairly clear that younger youngsters underneath the age of two ought to not likely have any display time in any respect. So all this Child Mozart stuff, and typically after I exit to a restaurant, and I see a household with a one-year-old, propped up on a excessive chair with a telephone on their little tray in entrance of them, I cringe as a result of there’s numerous proof that means that that isn’t useful and is dangerous for the neurodevelopment, mind growth of children that age.

As youngsters begin to become old, the vary of potential display time that consultants counsel will get broader and broader once more, relying on who you hearken to. In our case, we actually need our daughter to be spending as a lot time interacting with the true bodily world as attainable, which suggests being exterior, staying energetic, [and] enjoying with associates in particular person. After which issues like studying books, making artwork, [and] enjoying music. We really feel that these sorts of actions are finest for her mind growth, for her social growth, [and] for her growth as a human being. We would like her to have an expertise of life that’s primarily unmediated by know-how. We would like her to have time for reverie and contemplation. We would like her to really feel bored as a result of as I’ve simply talked about earlier than and written about earlier than, boredom is definitely a precondition for creativity and innovation. Having the ability to tolerate these moments the place you don’t know what to do, you’re not engaged in a selected exercise, and also you begin to really feel that sensation that we check with as boredom, a few of the richest and most unpredictable experiences can come out of that.

And one of many issues that issues me most about these applied sciences that we’ve got entry to, for adults and youngsters, is that if we wish to, we are able to fully keep away from that have. These experiences of boredom, these quiet moments the place we’d simply gaze out the window, and we go into that default mode community the place we’re unconsciously reviewing our lives and our experiences, and that’s producing new concepts and new views. I feel that sort of time is totally important to being human, and I’m involved that there are whole generations now which can be being raised with these applied sciences, which may basically fully obliterate that point. So let’s say you’re in line on the retailer, and also you is perhaps in a scenario the place you’d have these sorts of moments, however you may simply whip out your telephone and see what’s new. Equally, in case you’re using in a automotive, like many people did after we had been youngsters simply looking the window, at this level, so many youngsters are simply watching a video or on their telephone within the automotive. Actually anytime there’s any feeling of discomfort or simply area at multi functional’s life, we are able to take a look at our telephone. And I feel that the harms of this should not even absolutely understood but and received’t be for a while. However I’m fairly alarmed by it. And I see it in each adults and youngsters.

I used to be simply at a restaurant the opposite day, and there was a household, and all the household was on their telephones for all the time. And there have been moments the place somebody would put their telephone down after which type of go searching, see that different folks had been on their telephones, and decide it up once more. There have been moments the place you would see somebody going by means of [an] inner, or at the very least I used to be projecting that they had been going by means of an inner course of the place they’re like, “Okay, I most likely shouldn’t be utilizing my telephone as a lot.” In order that they put the telephone down. However then, a pair [of] moments cross, some discomfort arises, [and] they decide up the telephone once more. And I don’t imply to guage or to name this specific household out as a result of all of us wrestle with this, together with me. Nevertheless it’s an indicator for me of the place we’re at on this planet that we’re dwelling in. And I feel that if we had been, let’s say, to move ourselves from 30 or 40 years in the past, previous to the arrival of those applied sciences, and journey into the longer term, after which simply be a passive observer standing in that restaurant taking a look at what’s occurring, we’d have been horrified and shocked. It might have been like a nasty sci-fi film, the place we see that that’s the character of human interplay now, and even simply [our] relationship with ourselves is totally interfered with by these applied sciences.

And I really feel like we’ve been the proverbial frogs within the boiling water, the place these modifications have taken place rapidly however not in a single day. I don’t assume we’re even absolutely conscious of how dramatically they’ve interfered with our lives. And in case you consider that thought experiment the place you go from 30 or 40 years in the past, these of us who had been sufficiently old to recollect what life was like earlier than these applied sciences, and also you quick ahead rapidly, it might be a surprising change. So we positively fall on the tip of the spectrum of limiting entry to those applied sciences and wanting our daughter to have important intervals of time the place she’s not interacting with them in any respect. And that’s true on a day-to-day foundation. Nevertheless it’s additionally true on a extra prolonged timeframe. I’ve talked about this lots earlier than, however we do digital, full screen-free occasions as a household. We’ve been worse on this within the pandemic, however previous to that, Sundays had been sacred screen-free days for everyone. After which we’d do extra prolonged intervals; in the summertime, we’ll typically do a multi-day rafting journey or a backcountry journey the place we’re simply in nature, and we’re not interacting with telephones or screens in any respect.

And I can let you know that even when our daughter was youthful than she is now, on the finish of these journeys, she would specific that she didn’t wish to depart these environments. So even at a younger age, [she] was capable of expertise how totally different life feels once you’re in that sort of important important relationship to the bodily world, to nature, to different folks. And she or he would say issues like, “Poppa, I don’t wish to depart the river,” which is a reasonably highly effective expression of our personal innate information of what’s good for us. And I feel it’s actually essential to carve out screen-free occasions every day, extra prolonged intervals on a weekly or month-to-month foundation, after which, longer chunks of time possibly on an annual or semiannual foundation, the place your youngsters and you aren’t experiencing life mediated by a display as a result of it has turn into such a dominant expertise for many of us.

All proper, so these are my present ideas. I hope this has been useful. And once more, I wish to emphasize how it is a dwelling respiratory course of. We’ve modified and proceed to vary our method. For instance, proper now, we’re not likely doing a lot display time in any respect every day for our daughter. We now have a household film night time on Saturday nights, and she or he’s acquired possibly a half-hour, an hour on one or two different days throughout the week, relying on the week. However we’ve had different occasions the place she had an hour a day, and will watch a film or do another stuff. However we’re simply consistently monitoring it, seeing the way it’s working for her, for our household after which making modifications accordingly. So I’d positively invite you to do the identical; it does require extra thought course of, extra dialogue. It turns into a bigger subject of dialog. However I feel it’s actually essential to do this.

When to Talk about Accountable Use of Tech with Your Youngsters

The second factor about that that I’d counsel is together with your little one, as soon as they’re sufficiently old, in these conversations. We’ve talked lots with our daughter in regards to the impacts of those applied sciences. She’s even watched The Social Dilemma; she was a bit younger for it when she noticed it, however we actually wished her to see it. I’ve talked to her about my work and research about know-how and display dependancy. She’s very effectively conscious of all of that stuff. And that doesn’t imply that she nonetheless doesn’t wish to use these applied sciences. In fact, that’s not going to vary her needs. All that stuff is working on an mental stage; she understands it on an mental stage, however her needs and impulses for these applied sciences are coming from a decrease a part of the mind and a part of very deep human needs to work together with different folks socially and be a part of one thing, and so forth. So don’t anticipate to clarify these items to your youngsters after which have them swiftly change their habits. That doesn’t work for many adults, so we are able to’t anticipate it to work for teenagers.

However, I feel it is very important embody them within the dialog. And I feel you’ll discover that once you do this, you’ll hear your youngsters in numerous contexts mentioning, possibly to different folks and even to you, issues that you simply’ve shared with them up to now, and that’s an indicator that they’re taking it in in some kind or capability. All proper. That’s it for at this time, everybody. Thanks for listening. Please maintain sending in your inquiries to ChrisKresser.com/podcastquestion, and we’ll discuss to you subsequent time.

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